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Demo

By KajMagnus3 years ago, edited 5 months ago by various people.

Do this:

  1. Scroll: click and hold left mouse button on the white background, and drag the mouse leftwards, upwards, with the mouse button held down.

Please note: The two dimensional layout can be disabled; there's a per website setting. To disable it on this page only, click here, to enable it again, click here.

  1. Scroll down to the Example Discussion below. Note how much text you don't need to read: pointless comments are collapsed — they don't waste your time.

  2. Think about whether interesting comments appears at the top / to the upper left, and boring comments appear far away downwards / to the right. — The intention is that you find the most interesting comments first, when you start reading.
    (Imagine the example discussion below, but moved to a "normal" forum: one single flat column, replies sorted by time — it would be unreadable. All you found wold be "Test", "Testing", "Test test" comments. But with Debiki, you find what you're looking for.)

  3. Test to leave a reply: click Reply. And click Like to like some comments :-)

  1. Have a look at the forum.

Example Discussion

Topic: Which animal species is the kindest species in the world?

What's your opinion?

  • 256 posts
  1. #196655Anonymous?2 years ago. 6 people like this comment.

    Dolphins.

    They have no arms and can do no evil. And they are intelligent, and always smile :-)

    Well, that wasn't entirely true. — They are bullying each other sometimes. And although they many times have saved humans from drowning, or from sharks, they have also actually killed humans — some poor fellow that surprised them by jumping from the boat down in the middle of them.

    1. #263905blah?2 years ago. 3 people like this comment.

      I like dolphins

      1. #464056Anonymous?2 years ago. 1 person thinks this comment is wrong.

        Dolphins are the greatest.

      2. In reply toblah:
        #115Anonymous?2 years ago.

        I like dolphins too

        1. #124Anonymous?2 years ago.

          they swym

        2. In reply toAnonymous:
          #126Anonymous?2 years ago.

          they jump

          1. #128da?2 years ago.

            impresionante!

            1. In reply toAnonymous:
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            2. In reply toAnonymous:
              #141Anonymous?a year ago.

              lol

              1. #188Anonymous?4 months ago.

                heres a test comment WOOOOOOOOOOOOO

                1. #189Anonymous?4 months ago.

                  and another test comment

                  1. In reply toAnonymous:
                    #190Anonymous?4 months ago.

                    what happens if I reply to this twice

                  2. In reply toAnonymous:
                    #191Anonymous?4 months ago.

                    what happens if I reply to this three times

                  3. In reply toAnonymous:
                    Click to show more comments
                  4. In reply toblah:
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                      #183Zombie Boy?4 months ago.

                      I like turtles!

                      1. #196BubbaAnonymous?2 months ago. 1 person thinks this comment is off-topic.

                        test

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                              #115641Anonymous?2 years ago. 2 people think this comment is wrong, 1 thinks it is off-topic.

                              what about bears?

                              1. #259539KajMagnus2 years ago, edited 2 years ago. 1 person likes this comment, 1 thinks it is wrong.

                                Grizzly bears and polar bears are not particularily kind, actually. As far as I've seen on TV, male bears kill (and eat?) their own children, if they happen to find them.

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                                    #187Anonymous?4 months ago. 1 person like this comment.

                                    asdfasdfasdf

                                    3334323

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                                    2. In reply toAnonymous:
                                      #159Anonymous?a year ago.

                                      yyj

                                    3. In reply toAnonymous:
                                      #186Anonymous?4 months ago.

                                      asdfasdfasdf

                                      333

                                    4. In reply toKajMagnus:
                                      #147439Anonymous?2 years ago. 5 people like this comment, 4 think it is off-topic.

                                      Horizontal and vertical scrolling? No thank you.

                                      1. #194957Dmitri?2 years ago. 2 people like this comment, 1 thinks it is off-topic.

                                        It works pretty great with a MacBook's trackpad (via two-finger scrolling).

                                        1. #16Anonymous?2 years ago. 1 person thinks this comment is wrong.

                                          I was just thinking this!

                                      2. In reply toAnonymous:
                                        #187655Anonymous?2 years ago, edited 2 years ago. 1 person like this comment.

                                        Agreed, it is annoying

                                        1. In reply toAnonymous:
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                                          1. In reply toAnonymous:

                                            Okay. Now I've implemented single column layout too, if you just want to scroll down.

                                            1. In reply toAnonymous:
                                              #185Anonymous?4 months ago.

                                              asdfasdfasdf

                                              333

                                              1. In reply toAnonymous:
                                                Comment deleted
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                                                #354625Anonymous?3 years ago, edited 3 years ago. 3 people like this comment, 2 think it is off-topic.

                                                The Dodo bird

                                                It's extinct now though

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                                                    1. #220986Anonymous?3 years ago.

                                                      Interesting idea.

                                                      1. #925802Anonymous?3 years ago.

                                                        Reminds me of a mind map.

                                                        1. #144246Anonymous?2 years ago.

                                                          Does it ever become to complex for the users to handle?

                                                          1. #157897KajMagnus2 years ago, edited 2 years ago.

                                                            For old people: Yes I suppose it might become too complex.

                                                            For today's children that grow up with computers: Perhaps almost "no"?

                                                      2. In reply toAnonymous:
                                                        #655327Anonymous?3 years ago.

                                                        Very interesting.

                                                        1. #143Anonymous?a year ago.

                                                          nested reply?

                                                          1. #145Anonymous?a year ago.

                                                            not interesting. reply can only nest for 3 levels.

                                                            1. #146KajMagnusa year ago.

                                                              Replies can nest to any level. However if there's only 1 reply, then there's really no need to increase indentation — instead I'm simply placing the new reply directly below the old one.

                                                              However, if there're 2 replies, then I show arrows and indent, since if they were placed directly below with no arrows, it wouldn't be clear which one replied to which.

                                                              1. In reply toAnonymous:
                                                                #147KajMagnusa year ago.

                                                                Example of nested reply with arrows.

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                                                                #144Anonymous?a year ago.

                                                                test

                                                              3. In reply toKajMagnus:
                                                                #640364Kitty overlord?2 years ago, edited 2 years ago. 3 people like this comment.

                                                                Kittens

                                                                Cats!

                                                                Just kidding.

                                                                1. #3KajMagnus2 years ago, edited 2 years ago. 2 people like this comment.

                                                                  Cats eat birds. But what about kittens? They are cute and drink milk instead

                                                                2. In reply toKitty overlord:
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                                                                  #253257Anonymous?2 years ago. 3 people like this comment.

                                                                  It's very annoying to scroll to the right so far to see new comments...

                                                                  1. #111Anonymous?2 years ago.

                                                                    true

                                                                  2. In reply toAnonymous:
                                                                    #113KajMagnus2 years ago, edited 2 years ago.

                                                                    You're drag-scrolling with the mouse? (I.e. clicking and dragging on the white background)

                                                                    You would have had to scroll an even longer distance, downwards, had everything been placed in a single 1D column. (Isn't that worse? I think)

                                                                    It's a problem, however, I agree — and now I'm thinking about [replies-to-the-OP that don't get any replies themselves]. They make the page very very wide, leaving it mostly blank.

                                                                    Illustration: (the two rightmost replies are problematic because they make the page too wide. I wonder how that can be fixed?? Placing them on top of each other somehow?)

                                                                    [the Original Post]
                                                                    [....             ]
                                                                    \
                                                                     `+--------+----------------+-------–...
                                                                      [Reply]  [Reply with no]  [Another ]
                                                                      |        [replies, bad ]  [one, bad]
                                                                      [Re. 2]
                                                                      [Good ]
                                                                      |
                                                                      [Re. 3]
                                                                      [...  ]
                                                                    
                                                                    1. #118Anonymous?2 years ago.

                                                                      You could tab the comments, eg with twitter bootstrap tabs,

                                                                      left tab - most interesting (or newest/oldest) center tab - less interesting right tab - least interesting

                                                                      Would also solve the problem of having to scroll right, especially on smaller screens.

                                                                      1. #120KajMagnus2 years ago. 1 person like this comment.

                                                                        That cold work unless there are too many replies to the root post. For example, on this page, there are 36 direct root post replies — then there would be 36 tabs?

                                                                        Perhaps it's possible to make it work anyway, by showing only the next 3 tabs or something like that.

                                                                        I'm afraid some people wouldn't realize that they were supposed to click on the tabs to find more comments.

                                                                        1. #197bigspud?a month ago.

                                                                          wow, just trying the 2d setup, and wondering why a preview pane is necessary on the post

                                                                          1. The preview is useful if you use Markdown syntax, and e.g. write bold text or italic text, or

                                                                            a source
                                                                              code
                                                                                snippet
                                                                            

                                                                            because then you'll see in the preview that the end result is what you intended. But you're right that if one only writes a plain simple comment using plain text, then in those cases the preview isn't needed.

                                                                        2. In reply toAnonymous:
                                                                          #119Anonymous?2 years ago.

                                                                          Also, the arrows make little sense with the comments already nested. The arrow distract from the content. Most people should be familiar with nested comments anyway.

                                                                          1. #121KajMagnus2 years ago, edited 2 years ago.

                                                                            That is true. I think the arrows are really only helpful when the replies "branch out", I mean, when there are >= 2 replies to a comment.

                                                                            (Someone else has also suggested that.)

                                                                            1. In reply toAnonymous:
                                                                              #134KajMagnus2 years ago.

                                                                              I've removed most arrows now, and only kept arrows that are actually needed (which they are if there are many replies to a reply, since the layout isn't the standard nested comment layout: the last reply isn't indented).

                                                                      2. In reply toKajMagnus:
                                                                        #262831KajMagnus3 years ago, edited 3 years ago. 2 people likes this comment, 1 thinks it is wrong.

                                                                        Humans?

                                                                        It's the kindest and cruelest species

                                                                        1. Some think this comment is wrong:
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                                                                              #140887Anonymous?2 years ago. 1 person likes this comment, 1 thinks it is wrong.

                                                                              Agreed!

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                                                                              #153Anonymous?a year ago, edited a year ago. 1 person likes this comment, 1 thinks it is wrong, 1 thinks it is off-topic.

                                                                              Are you sure it's also the kindest? Most of the time we're being kind is when we're trying to fix our own or somebody else's cruelty.

                                                                              Like helping the homeless is kind. But the reason they're homeless is most likely due to other people's cruelty.

                                                                              1. #168Kaj Magnusa year ago.

                                                                                I think when finding the kindest species, it's individuals that counts, not the average :-) And usually the ones that help the homeless aren't the ones who were cruel against them. So if you look at individuals, then among humans you'll find the most kind hearted beings and also the most cruel beings.

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                                                                                  #21867Anonymous?3 years ago. 1 person thinks this comment is off-topic.

                                                                                  Interesting potential with this idea. Keep it up!

                                                                                2. In reply toKajMagnus:
                                                                                  #388660Anonymous?2 years ago.

                                                                                  Also the most dangerous game.

                                                                              3. In reply toKajMagnus:
                                                                                #255528Cicero?3 years ago. 1 person like this comment, 2 think it is off-topic.

                                                                                Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua.

                                                                                Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur.

                                                                                1. #198276Cicero?3 years ago. 2 people likes this comment, 1 thinks it is wrong.

                                                                                  Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.

                                                                                  Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur.

                                                                                  1. In reply toCicero:
                                                                                    #849362Anonymous?2 years ago. 1 person like this comment.

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                                                                                    1. #10Keth?2 years ago.

                                                                                      Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur.

                                                                                    2. In reply toCicero:
                                                                                      #201704Cicero?3 years ago.

                                                                                      Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.

                                                                                      1. #21329Cicero?3 years ago.

                                                                                        Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit!

                                                                                        Sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua!

                                                                                        1. #180491Cicero?3 years ago.

                                                                                          Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit

                                                                                      2. In reply toCicero:
                                                                                        #181412Cicero?3 years ago.

                                                                                        Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.

                                                                                        1. #211086Anonymous?3 years ago.

                                                                                          Häruptur förstårum jagitin intemporum särskoligumt myximalcket!

                                                                                    3. In reply toKajMagnus:
                                                                                      #339792Anonymous?3 years ago. 1 person likes this comment, 1 thinks it is wrong, 2 think it is off-topic.

                                                                                      Test

                                                                                      1. #127509Anonymous?3 years ago. 1 person thinks this comment is wrong.

                                                                                        Not a test

                                                                                        1. #2KajMagnus2 years ago. 1 person like this comment.

                                                                                          That was definitively a test

                                                                                          1. #7Anonymous?2 years ago. 1 person like this comment.

                                                                                            Don't lie!

                                                                                      2. In reply toKajMagnus:
                                                                                        #148489Anonymous?2 years ago. 1 person like this comment.

                                                                                        Dogs

                                                                                      3. In reply toKajMagnus:
                                                                                        #920731Anonymous?2 years ago, edited 2 years ago. 1 person likes this comment, 1 thinks it is wrong.

                                                                                        It does it a little fast for the starting entries

                                                                                      4. In reply toKajMagnus:
                                                                                        #147738Anonymous?2 years ago. 1 person like this comment.

                                                                                        OMG does this work?

                                                                                        1. #149Anonymous?a year ago.

                                                                                          This is a very novel approach to the problems w/ discussion threads

                                                                                        2. In reply toKajMagnus:
                                                                                          #129464Anonymous?2 years ago. 1 person like this comment.

                                                                                          This is a test.

                                                                                          1. #167Anonymous?a year ago. 1 person likes this comment, 1 thinks it is wrong.

                                                                                            This is not a test btw!!

                                                                                            1. #169KajMagnusa year ago.

                                                                                              That's what they all say, but I know better

                                                                                            2. In reply toAnonymous:
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                                                                                              #252875sali?2 years ago. 1 person like this comment, 1 thinks it is off-topic.

                                                                                              Short comments that aren't in focus are marked as read, even though I didn't pay any attention to tem.

                                                                                              1. In reply toKajMagnus:
                                                                                                #132777Anonymous?2 years ago. 1 person like this comment.

                                                                                                ?

                                                                                                1. In reply toKajMagnus:
                                                                                                  #787929t?2 years ago. 1 person like this comment.

                                                                                                  what's "an animal" anyway?

                                                                                                2. In reply toKajMagnus:
                                                                                                  #86SDFdsfew?2 years ago. 1 person like this comment.

                                                                                                  Trying

                                                                                                  1. #105KajMagnus2 years ago. 1 person like this comment.

                                                                                                    Hi SDFdsfew, I think I've somewhat fixed the problem with too deep indentation of nested comments. Thanks for giving me a good example case to test on :-)

                                                                                                    If you have time, I wrote a blog post about fixing the problem with too deep indentation.

                                                                                                    1. In reply toSDFdsfew:
                                                                                                      #87SDFdsfew?2 years ago.

                                                                                                      Trying again

                                                                                                      1. #88SDFdsfew?2 years ago.

                                                                                                        Just trying

                                                                                                        1. #89SDFdsfew?2 years ago.

                                                                                                          Another trying

                                                                                                          1. #90SDFdsfew?2 years ago.

                                                                                                            Again another trying

                                                                                                            1. #91SDFdsfew?2 years ago.

                                                                                                              Well why not another try?

                                                                                                              1. #92SDFdsfew?2 years ago.

                                                                                                                Somemore trying

                                                                                                                1. #93SDFdsfew?2 years ago.

                                                                                                                  Retrying... Retrying... Retrying... Retrying...

                                                                                                                  1. #94SDFdsfew?2 years ago.

                                                                                                                    How deep my trying will go...

                                                                                                                    1. #95SDFdsfew?2 years ago.

                                                                                                                      Retrying as deep as i can...

                                                                                                                      1. #96SDFdsfew?2 years ago.

                                                                                                                        Keep trying to digg

                                                                                                                        1. #97SDFdsfew?2 years ago.

                                                                                                                          Keep trying to digggg

                                                                                                                  2. In reply toSDFdsfew:
                                                                                                                    #100SDFdsfew?2 years ago.

                                                                                                                    Spamming!!!

                                                                                                              2. In reply toSDFdsfew:
                                                                                                                #101SDFdsfew?2 years ago.

                                                                                                                okay i'm blur

                                                                                                          2. In reply toSDFdsfew:
                                                                                                            #99SDFdsfew?2 years ago.

                                                                                                            Hmnn.. what?

                                                                                                        2. In reply toKajMagnus:
                                                                                                          #142Anonymous?a year ago. 1 person like this comment.

                                                                                                          Hmmmm...

                                                                                                          1. In reply toKajMagnus:
                                                                                                            #207281Anonymous?3 years ago. 2 people think this comment is off-topic.

                                                                                                            new branch

                                                                                                          2. In reply toKajMagnus:
                                                                                                            #384260Anonymous?3 years ago. 2 people think this comment is off-topic.

                                                                                                            test

                                                                                                            1. In reply toKajMagnus:
                                                                                                              #212012Anonymous?3 years ago. 1 person thinks this comment is off-topic.

                                                                                                              Nifty

                                                                                                              1. In reply toKajMagnus:
                                                                                                                #159551Anonymous?2 years ago. 1 person thinks this comment is off-topic.

                                                                                                                test

                                                                                                              2. In reply toKajMagnus:
                                                                                                                #243119Anonymous?2 years ago. 2 people think this comment is off-topic.

                                                                                                                Test

                                                                                                                1. In reply toKajMagnus:
                                                                                                                  #240316Anonymous?2 years ago. 1 person thinks this comment is off-topic.

                                                                                                                  Gulp. Big one

                                                                                                                  1. In reply toKajMagnus:
                                                                                                                    #159148Anonymous?2 years ago. 3 people think this comment is off-topic.

                                                                                                                    test from reddit.

                                                                                                                    1. #714037Anonymous?2 years ago. 1 person like this comment, 1 thinks it is off-topic.

                                                                                                                      Another Reddit test

                                                                                                                      1. In reply toAnonymous:
                                                                                                                        #209916Anonymous?2 years ago. 1 person like this comment.

                                                                                                                        bla bla

                                                                                                                      2. In reply toAnonymous:
                                                                                                                        #5Anonymous?2 years ago.

                                                                                                                        this is wow.

                                                                                                                      3. In reply toAnonymous:
                                                                                                                        #152Anonymous?a year ago.

                                                                                                                        test

                                                                                                                      4. In reply toAnonymous:
                                                                                                                        #155Anonymous?a year ago.

                                                                                                                        I feel like a comments section shouldn't need a minimap.

                                                                                                                        1. #156KajMagnusa year ago.

                                                                                                                          I'd say that depends on the number of comments, and on the nature of the comments.

                                                                                                                          This page is a forum topic, and the comment section is intended as the main contents of the page.

                                                                                                                      5. In reply toKajMagnus:
                                                                                                                        #664164Anonymous?2 years ago. 1 person thinks this comment is wrong.

                                                                                                                        octopussquids

                                                                                                                      6. In reply toKajMagnus:
                                                                                                                        #165015Anonymous?2 years ago. 1 person thinks this comment is wrong.

                                                                                                                        Wat

                                                                                                                        1. #258097KajMagnus2 years ago.

                                                                                                                          What? "Wat" is no animal?

                                                                                                                        2. In reply toKajMagnus:
                                                                                                                          #174014Anonymous?2 years ago. 1 person thinks this comment is wrong.

                                                                                                                          Nice.

                                                                                                                          1. In reply toKajMagnus:
                                                                                                                            #220253Ryan?2 years ago.

                                                                                                                            Super interesting work. My only note relates to a widescreen monitor—I tend to read the inner-most (2) columns versus the outer-most-left column (after scrolling a bit). Either way, great explorations and documentation.

                                                                                                                            1. In reply toKajMagnus:
                                                                                                                              #110532Ryan?2 years ago.

                                                                                                                              Another really cool feature—my computer seems to be "reading" the comments at a different pace based on character count?

                                                                                                                              1. In reply toKajMagnus:
                                                                                                                                #236855Anonymous?2 years ago. 1 person thinks this comment is wrong.

                                                                                                                                ...

                                                                                                                                1. #982901Anonymous?2 years ago. 1 person like this comment, 1 thinks it is off-topic.

                                                                                                                                  jfgjfgj

                                                                                                                                2. In reply toKajMagnus:
                                                                                                                                  #116980Anonymous?2 years ago.

                                                                                                                                  this is fantastic

                                                                                                                                  1. #129547Anonymous?2 years ago.

                                                                                                                                    replying to my own comment

                                                                                                                                    1. #227896Anonymous?2 years ago.

                                                                                                                                      indenting again ... this can only work so many times given fixed column space for mobile layout lets see...

                                                                                                                                      1. #137919Anonymous?2 years ago.

                                                                                                                                        and again

                                                                                                                                        1. #124343Anonymous?2 years ago.

                                                                                                                                          and again

                                                                                                                                          1. #789205Anonymous?2 years ago.

                                                                                                                                            and again the problem is solved neatly before posting but on posting

                                                                                                                                            1. #396392Anonymous?2 years ago. 1 person thinks this comment is wrong.

                                                                                                                                              well there isnt much you can do about it ... and in real life such nesting is not useful... in fact, have you considered not nesting at all --> one column is one "initial comment plus all replies"?

                                                                                                                                              1. #18KajMagnus2 years ago, edited 2 years ago.

                                                                                                                                                Hmm, not much. I've thought about not increasing the indentation level, if there's only one reply, however.

                                                                                                                                                I think one could restrict nesting depending on how wide the column is. I don't know if you've noticed that you can resize the column — if you hover this column with the mouse, a "resizable vertical line handle" appears.

                                                                                                                                                Ooops this one is definitively too deeply nested :-(

                                                                                                                                                Edit: Now I've mitigated the problem with too deep indentation :-) /Edit (June 2013)

                                                                                                                                        2. In reply toAnonymous:
                                                                                                                                          #17Anonymous?2 years ago.

                                                                                                                                          Iguess the idea is that you can split off time and time again

                                                                                                                                      2. In reply toAnonymous:
                                                                                                                                        #123Anonymous?2 years ago.

                                                                                                                                        fzzdzzd

                                                                                                                                    2. In reply toKajMagnus:
                                                                                                                                      #183171V?2 years ago.

                                                                                                                                      Everything is wonderful. But! You do not have instructions on how to connect it. This is not correct.

                                                                                                                                      Thanks. V.

                                                                                                                                      1. #203159KajMagnus2 years ago.

                                                                                                                                        Re: "instructions on how to connect it" — what are you referring to? "it"? :-)

                                                                                                                                        1. #253009V?2 years ago.

                                                                                                                                          I mean your script cursor control. No lessons or instructions. Thanks. V.

                                                                                                                                          1. #102KajMagnus2 years ago.

                                                                                                                                            (Sorry for the very late reply)

                                                                                                                                            Oh you mean Utterscroll, the dragscroll script? Please find instructions here: https://github.com/debiki/utterscroll

                                                                                                                                            1. #135Fedol?2 years ago.

                                                                                                                                              I tried the Script, but i'm getting an error

                                                                                                                                              TypeError: $viewportGhost.offset(...) is null

                                                                                                                                              using

                                                                                                                                              • jQuery 1.7.2
                                                                                                                                              • modernizr
                                                                                                                                              • jquery scrollable
                                                                                                                                              • utterscroll

                                                                                                                                              can u help plz?

                                                                                                                                              1. #137KajMagnus2 years ago, edited a year ago.

                                                                                                                                                [Edit] Old somewhat incorrect comment, please see my more recent comment instead, with a link to an example HTML file. [/Edit]

                                                                                                                                                Hi Fedol,

                                                                                                                                                Do you wait with running Utterscroll until the document has been loaded? Otherwise document.body might be null I think, which would result in the error you're seeing.

                                                                                                                                                I created a JsFiddle here: (but it doesn't work as I would have expected)

                                                                                                                                                http://jsfiddle.net/nZa2K/

                                                                                                                                                and document.body is null, therefore $viewportGhost.offset() becomes null. I wonder why document.body is null, because JSFiddle does wait with running the Javascript code until the document has been loaded:

                                                                                                                                                //<![CDATA[ 
                                                                                                                                                $(window).load(function(){
                                                                                                                                                debiki.Utterscroll.enable();
                                                                                                                                                });//]]>  
                                                                                                                                                

                                                                                                                                                Right now I'm thinking that the problem is somehow related to the script being run in an <iframe> inside e.g. JsFiddle, and/or that you should wait with calling Utterscroll until after the document has been loaded. (If that's the problem, I should document it.)

                                                                                                                                                1. In reply toFedol:
                                                                                                                                                  #138KajMagnusa year ago, edited a year ago.

                                                                                                                                                  Hi again, here is a small example HTML file that shows how you can use Utterscroll. I wasn't aware about this, but currently one needs to load Utterscroll at the bottom of the HTML page (or load it lazily on the page load event).

                                                                                                                                                  The example is linked from https://github.com/debiki/utterscroll too.

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                                                                                                                                                #160Anonymous?a year ago.

                                                                                                                                                test

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                                                                                                                                              #139Anonymous?a year ago.

                                                                                                                                              hello this is not really wonderful, but nice

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                                                                                                                                              #129da?2 years ago.

                                                                                                                                              mi opinion giles!

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                                                                                                                                                #132Anonymous?2 years ago. 1 person thinks this comment is off-topic.

                                                                                                                                                What?

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                                                                                                                                                #140Anonymous?a year ago.

                                                                                                                                                reaaly cool interface!

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                                                                                                                                                  #170Anonymous?10 months ago. 1 person thinks this comment is wrong.

                                                                                                                                                  well done, dude !

                                                                                                                                                  1. #200Anonymous?8 days ago.

                                                                                                                                                    Yeah, well done! dasd
                                                                                                                                                    dsadaskljadsas
                                                                                                                                                    Claro que si

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                                                                                                                                                      #199Anonymous?8 days ago. 1 person thinks this comment is wrong.

                                                                                                                                                      Yeah, well done! dasd
                                                                                                                                                      dsadaskljadsas
                                                                                                                                                      Claro que si

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                                                                                                                                                      #171Anonymous?10 months ago.

                                                                                                                                                      Polarbears!

                                                                                                                                                      They keep the seal population at bay.

                                                                                                                                                      1. #172Anonymous?10 months ago. 1 person thinks this comment is wrong.

                                                                                                                                                        or maybe red panda, not many left but worth preserving

                                                                                                                                                        1. #173Anonymous?10 months ago. 1 person likes this comment, 1 thinks it is wrong.

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                                                                                                                                                        #195Anonymous?2 months ago.

                                                                                                                                                        what ? this looks good.

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